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SmartAZ
12-29-2004, 10:05 PM
Excerpt:

DRM hasn't convinced the studios to put new material online -- the offerings that the studios have put online are a pathetic shadow of the material one can download from the P2P networks. The studios have all the DRM in the universe at their disposal, but they're not using it to bring new material to market.

Nope, they're using it to sell you the same crap for more money. Chris loves his Microsoft Media Center PC, "essentially a DVR on steroids" -- at least, he loves it so far. That's because he hasn't been bitten on the ass by it yet, like this guy, who bought a Media Center PC so that he could catch the Sopranos and burn them to DVD. When he bought the PC, it was capable of doing that. Halfway through the season, the studios reached into his living room and broke his PC, disabling the feature that allowed him to burn his Sopranos episodes to DVD. And if you got suckered into letting your cable company give you a "free" PVR, you've got a nasty shock coming this season: your episodes of Six Feet Under will delete themselves from your hard drive after two weeks, whether you've gotten around to watching them or not.

If you want to watch all the Sopranos or Six Feet Unders in a row at the end of the season, you'll have to do it on Pay Per View. You'll have to buy what you used to get for free: the right to record a show and watch it for as long as you'd like. You get less, you pay more. And the studios can change the rules of the game after you've bought the box and brought it home: the only way you can protect your investment is if you can somehow ensure that no studio executive decides to revoke one of the features you paid for back when the box was on the show-room floor. Remember, these are the same studio execs who are duking it out for the right to limit how long a pause button can work for.

Long piece with many links (http://www.boingboing.net/2004/12/29/cory_responds_to_wir.html)

rb.
12-29-2004, 11:28 PM
Timely, considering I've spent the last 24 hours downloading Lost episodes. And just finished searching for the first seasons of Carnivale and Deadwood. I hate not taping a new series when I start watching it. I won't say what DH is downloading right now. :D (Get your mind out of the gutter! :P )

Libertarian
12-30-2004, 12:56 AM
I use ATI All-in-Wonder to record anything I want to off my cable system to a hard drive. I do not worry about commercial DVR/TIVO systems that can be buggered with by the broadcasters.

rb.
12-31-2004, 03:46 PM
Lib, what's the All in Wonder? A card, a computer? :confused:

Larred
12-31-2004, 08:27 PM
RB, yes, it's a video card with a TV in/out. I had one, it was a rather unpleasant experience, very buggy... I could hardly get it to work, but, when they work they allow you to have a Tivo like setup on your computer that is very nice because there are no "rules" as to the recording. I'm sure Lib can shed some more light on his setup when he clicks back in...

Potemkin
12-31-2004, 10:09 PM
Lib, what's the All in Wonder? A card, a computer? :confused:

http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/aiw9800pro/index.html

There you go. Nice little card. Not buggy at all as the onboard video chip doesn't use the main CPU to process. This brand also uses an interactive programming guide so you don't have to go looking up the programs. Just click and record.

There are also USB devices similar to the previous product. Just plug them in a USB port, supply signal and power, and let her rip. No opening the computer.

Larred
12-31-2004, 11:14 PM
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9800/aiw9800pro/index.html

There you go. Nice little card. Not buggy at all as the onboard video chip doesn't use the main CPU to process. This brand also uses an interactive programming guide so you don't have to go looking up the programs. Just click and record.

There are also USB devices similar to the previous product. Just plug them in a USB port, supply signal and power, and let her rip. No opening the computer.

Well, in truth my experience with that card was a few years back. Computer years are like dog years, several at a time for each human year, so quite possibly they could be as Pot mentioned, all the bugs worked out and all good.... Makes me want to try it out again, as I was pretty disappointed that it didn't work the first time (years ago)...

Libertarian
01-01-2005, 12:15 AM
I got mine in 1997. It is one of their earlier units. It still works great. It only has 8 mb of on-board RAM but it works well and I can record anything on the cable. The new All-In-Wonder cards have 128 mb RAM and are practically PCs in their own right.

rb.
01-01-2005, 10:42 AM
Thanks for the info, guys. I'm using a Mac, so I'll do some investigating.

Libertarian
01-01-2005, 02:49 PM
IIRC Mac's use an AGP card just like PC's do. You should be able to use an ATI All-in-Wonder card or, if nothing else, the USB dongle.

Ought Six
01-01-2005, 06:31 PM
L:

What is the ratio of 'hours of TV video' to 'Gb of hard drive storage' when using the All-In-Wonder card to record programs? I presume high-definition TV video would have such large storage requirements that it would not be practical to record hi-def programs using this setup.... right?

Libertarian
01-01-2005, 06:43 PM
It depends on the size and resolution you save the file as. IIRC a 30 minute show runs around 40 mb.

I really do not have a good answer for you right now other than that. It has been a while since I used it to record anything off the cable. (There's not much worth saving!)

I do not have Hi-Def so I can not answer that question either.

rb.
01-01-2005, 06:56 PM
Ought Six, I just finished downloading some Lost episodes the other day off Limewire. For 42 minutes, .avi file, HDTV, the files ran approx. 350MB.

Libertarian
01-01-2005, 07:08 PM
I collect .rm not .avi They're smaller.